party The Peoples Party

[ErjonBerisha 17]

First of all businesses will obviously invest, thats how they get lots of money, through interest. What other ways do they get profit. You get the point. I have a serious question though, how are small businesses going to get the loan and what are the requirements?

To be honest we have no proof that lower taxes causes higher crime rate or vise versa. (Go to paragraph 4 where I explain that)

How does higher tax rates make people lazy you say, basing off this experience and contacts all my family in Norway are just sitting in home enjoying their life and one of them is building a house in Kosovo worth €200,000. My dad quit his job (for health issues) and is now living off jobseekers allowance (and other benefits like housing) and all he has to do is apply for a few jobs every month. This is a big problem in NI. I'm not saying it is impossible to not make people lazy. If you look at England's jobseekers system it is a very good one, I'm not going into England's way of doing it though, research your self.

I just explained how England can keep its high taxes. If you see Dubai they have 0 income tax and only tax things that are necessary and they still have very little crime, they were able to buy fucking Lambos for there law enforcement how crazy is that?They acctualy have a problem of expensive cars that are unowned. They are also thriving and you can just see it by the buildings they have built. Though we will probably never know if high or low taxes are good in the long run because the governments seems to change it every few years. BTW remember the econimic crisis in 2008, where banks went bankrupt and that millions of people lots there homes and businesses went bankrupt. ALL THE SYSTEMS FAILED, calling them dips is a understatement, my dad home went from costing £100,000 to £60,000. Just imagine other buildings. USA is in trillions in debt same with UK ( this is what is making our taxes a bit more higher). It will obviously get out of debt unless deglobilisation happenes (brexit, Donald Trump) which who knows what will happen. 

You can't use Freddo's as an example because taxes change all the time, and you can use the example of hitting a kid because of the same reason. 

I'm pretty sure people wouldn't want to go to school so more tax cuts then. I raised the awareness about military because MORE TAX CUTS yeah!

Ahh this thing you said, btw my dad earns more if he just gets job seekers allowance + his hobby than getting a job. Unless you go for what I said about England

I don't see how lower taxes causes inflation, please write to me about that. Explaining econimics about inflation - demand pull inflation is where the bank makes lots of money and now make the money more worth less. If the government spends wisely then this won't be a problem. Cost-push inflation is when I make to much of an important product. Eg the 1970s in the US they imported lots of oil from Saudi Arabia after an embargo. This caused the price of oil to fall down and energy prices to fall but this was considered good.

[ErjonBerisha 17]

What do you think is a good minimum wage?

[ErjonBerisha 17]

There is some things you can see we don't need like military etc. So do consider lowering the taxes to like 25% for higher income and no tax for poor people

Edited December 22, 2016 by ErjonBerisha

[Qlight123 52]

So basically communism?

[ThomasHetch 50]

What ever your point is it is like Putin and Stalin had a child with even more communist views. You may say it isn't communism but in the long run it is. My suggestions are that the taxes are too damn high. Free healthcare will make people careless and they will not care if they get hurt or not because they think they can spend as much money from taxes on hospital bills as often as they want. I could go on with the other policies but that would be a thethis for a PhD.

[GeneSmith 197]

52 minutes ago, ThomasHetch said:

What ever your point is it is like Putin and Stalin had a child with even more communist views. You may say it isn't communism but in the long run it is. My suggestions are that the taxes are too damn high. Free healthcare will make people careless and they will not care if they get hurt or not because they think they can spend as much money from taxes on hospital bills as often as they want. I could go on with the other policies but that would be a thethis for a PhD.

You do realize your taxes were set at 50% and you only lowered them by 200,000$. The fact that you say these taxes are too high is ridiculous and hypocritical. And with free healthcare people would feel at ease. Who in their right mind would say "Free healthcare? Guess I'll rush in there with gun blazing." Nobody, why? Because they have everything to lose. Their guns and the scene that they were in. And depending on what type of server, their actual life is on the line.

So far what I've seen from you Mr. Hetch is a re work of MY tax system and what I can assume will be a rip off of my healthcare plan as well. On top of this your taxes are extreme and unnecessary. You'll be making everybody poor while you stay rich. If you want to make money, stick to being a business man Mr. Hetch. The Island doesn't need greed. It needs a leader who is willing to make sacrifices for himself.

[ThomasHetch 50]

I make sacrifices for the people. Why would I sacrifice the people for my own benefit. I have a 25% tax rate for people with $1,000,000< so I am taking so much less. I will sacrifice myself if am am or I am not elected. 

[ThomasHetch 50]

What sacrifices will you make is the question.

[JoelKeys 412]

22 hours ago, GeneSmith said:

You do realize your taxes were set at 50% and you only lowered them by 200,000$. The fact that you say these taxes are too high is ridiculous and hypocritical. And with free healthcare people would feel at ease. Who in their right mind would say "Free healthcare? Guess I'll rush in there with gun blazing." Nobody, why? Because they have everything to lose. Their guns and the scene that they were in. And depending on what type of server, their actual life is on the line.

So far what I've seen from you Mr. Hetch is a re work of MY tax system and what I can assume will be a rip off of my healthcare plan as well. On top of this your taxes are extreme and unnecessary. You'll be making everybody poor while you stay rich. If you want to make money, stick to being a business man Mr. Hetch. The Island doesn't need greed. It needs a leader who is willing to make sacrifices for himself.

Gene I know I am running for Governor but I want to know if I can vote for other candidates I am voting for you, I dont agree with all of your policies but you have a head and you can think logically, I like that.

[GeneSmith 197]

15 minutes ago, JoelKeys said:

Gene I know I am running for Governor but I want to know if I can vote for other candidates I am voting for you, I dont agree with all of your policies but you have a head and you can think logically, I like that.

Thank you very much. I really do respect that, and I've seen the effort you've put into your posts. If I vote for anybody it'll be for you

[GeneSmith 197]

2 hours ago, ThomasHetch said:

I make sacrifices for the people. Why would I sacrifice the people for my own benefit. I have a 25% tax rate for people with $1,000,000< so I am taking so much less. I will sacrifice myself if am am or I am not elected. 

 

2 hours ago, ThomasHetch said:

What sacrifices will you make is the question.

First of all let me pull my cuffs up.

Your tax system is still entirely useless. Not only is that still horrible it's a huge gap from your top tax rate. Either low the highest or raise the lowest. Either way your tax plan will break the bank and send everything into either a recession or a depression with your unexpected tax hikes. Why would anybody below 1,000,000 pay 25%. I'm assuming that rate is for people in the 200,000 price range because if it's higher... still there's the gap. That's still 50,000 dollars being taken away from somebody who could spend it improving their business or buying their first car. You don't think about people when you make these, you only think about how you can make more money.

And are you being serious with what sacrifice I would make. 

I would sacrifice my own pay to help the people who live on the island. I plan on not bleeding them dry with taxing, and I'm giving them free healthcare. What sacrifices have I made? What sacrifices have you made Mr. Hetch?

Edited January 26, 2017 by GeneSmith

[ThomasHetch 50]

prove that yours won't ethier

[ThomasHetch 50]

I am not bleeding them dry with taxation.

[ThomasHetch 50]

First I am signing over my whole company, then I am running for the most stressful position. I will put them first and last I am a running for governor to help the people not to help himself. 

[GeneSmith 197]

7 minutes ago, ThomasHetch said:

First I am signing over my whole company, then I am running for the most stressful position. I will put them first and last I am a running for governor to help the people not to help himself. 

If you want to help yourself you need to make some serious changes to your campaign.

11 minutes ago, ThomasHetch said:

I am not bleeding them dry with taxation.

Your still taking 300,000$ out of 1,000,000$. That's a lot of money to be taken away. That's nearly half of their pay. That's what I call bleeding them dry.

12 minutes ago, ThomasHetch said:

prove that yours won't ethier

My taxes aren't high.

3-5%

5-10%

10-15%

Thats from lower to middle class. I'm hardly taking any money from them and when I do, it's to purely benefit them and not me. I made Taxes so low because I wanted to make sure people could keep their money and spend it how they please. That's why my taxes won't fail.

[ThomasHetch 50]

Wrong

8 minutes ago, GeneSmith said:

If you want to help yourself you need to make some serious changes to your campaign.

Your still taking 300,000$ out of 1,000,000$. That's a lot of money to be taken away. That's nearly half of their pay. That's what I call bleeding them dry.

My taxes aren't high.

3-5%

5-10%

10-15%

Thats from lower to middle class. I'm hardly taking any money from them and when I do, it's to purely benefit them and not me. I made Taxes so low because I wanted to make sure people could keep their money and spend it how they please. That's why my taxes won't fail.

I am taking $250,000 if that is a lot to the millionaires and above they are crazy people and they will have $750,000 that wont cause them to be homeless. And with taking so little money how will you be able to pay for Canada-Care, how will you be able to pay for the whole extensive background check for guns. That software being made costs money. The only reason Socialist countries can pay for this stuff because their taxes are out of this world. Look at Canada's taxes on this website http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/canada.htm

[GeneSmith 197]

8 minutes ago, ThomasHetch said:

Wrong

I am taking $250,000 if that is a lot to the millionaires and above they are crazy people and they will have $750,000 that wont cause them to be homeless. And with taking so little money how will you be able to pay for Canada-Care, how will you be able to pay for the whole extensive background check for guns. That software being made costs money. The only reason Socialist countries can pay for this stuff because their taxes are out of this world. Look at Canada's taxes on this website http://www.taxtips.ca/taxrates/canada.htm

1- Considering that most people on the island will be Middle to Upper class it'll pay for itself.

2- Background checks are a lot cheaper than banning guns all together.

3- Don't use real world stats in a game. Because it will most likely not apply to whats happening in game.

The facts are this is not Canada or America, this is a country on its own. And I doubt that anybody would want to pay so much money to live in a place that's molded by them. If this island can be molded then it can be formed to sustain completely off of the taxes that I've set. With your taxes there will always be fluctuations and drops. With mine it can either stay the same or raise because of its affordability price range. And considering that, my Healthcare and background checks will actually pay for themselves. And if they don't I'm willing to put out my own check to help sustain it until it gets to where it needs to be.

[ThomasHetch 50]

I can use what ever I want as evidence, and this is a realistic game so ya. How would you put down your own check if you are willing to sacrifice you own pay.

15 minutes ago, GeneSmith said:

1- Considering that most people on the island will be Middle to Upper class it'll pay for itself.

2- Background checks are a lot cheaper than banning guns all together.

3- Don't use real world stats in a game. Because it will most likely not apply to whats happening in game.

The facts are this is not Canada or America, this is a country on its own. And I doubt that anybody would want to pay so much money to live in a place that's molded by them. If this island can be molded then it can be formed to sustain completely off of the taxes that I've set. With your taxes there will always be fluctuations and drops. With mine it can either stay the same or raise because of its affordability price range. And considering that, my Healthcare and background checks will actually pay for themselves. And if they don't I'm willing to put out my own check to help sustain it until it gets to where it needs to be.

 

[GeneSmith 197]

Mr. Hetch, so far what I have seen from your posts you try and take advantage of other people's posts. Mine being a prime example, you haven't done it in a few days but I want to point out why you are not doing anything right. Instead of trying to make friends you're making enemies. From what I've gathered you have enemies with Mr. Luprano and his friend Calico. And you're starting to make an enemy out of me. Your taxing is based on capitalism and it's so you can make money. What I believe you're doing is saying you'll give up your business to look good for the public. That's the reason taxes are so high. Let me ask you Mr. Hetch, what do you plan to do with that money. Over an estimated 1.5 million dollars from 200-300 people. 1.5 million dollars from a small island of people for what? You said you don't support free healthcare so that's out the window. Your money won't go to banning weapons because you yourself said you only wanna ban "The powerful ones." So where is that money going to. 

And my sacrifice is giving up my check. Putting money into the government spending. Personally spending my wages so people can get what they NEED. Not what you think they need. Being a governor isn't about money to me. I've proven that. I don't need the Governor check and I'll donate it to spending. My taxes are low and my pay is non existent. While you're taxing is high and your still getting paid. You're a business man as well. And you wanted to go into a very high paying business, tech. Obviously that didn't go as planned but it gave me a pretty good idea of whom I was up against.

Thomas Hetch, I believe you are nothing more than a capitalist who wants nothing more than to bleed everyone dry of their money. You don't support the people but you support highly of taxing the people. You've made that clear. You want to tax them and then make them pay for their healthcare. And on top of that you criticized The People's Party, a party dedicated to for the people. I've been close with them since almost day one. And your first post on there was that they were communists. 

If there is anybody reading this I want you to know what I think and who I represent.

I think Thomas Hetch will ruin the Island, and I think he wants to take your money from you. I want to represent all of you with every fiber of my being. I will treat you with respect and I will try my hardest to make things perfect. And even if I'm not elected I will still have the satisfaction of knowing I had supporters who believed in me and trusted me. Thank you for your time.

[GeneSmith 197]

I also want to make it clear @Frank @Calico and @ThomasHetch that getting Calico and Frank are in The Neighborhood, that doesn't mean they're illegal. So the next time you make a fake account or have someone else make one for you, try and not say the exact same thing you said in a separate post. We are not criminals just because of those two being associated. Is Thomas Hetch really the person you want for Governor? He makes fake accounts or has his friends do it for him to try and harass me privately. 

[ThomasHetch 50]

I don't know what the hell u are talking about.

[Qlight123 52]

18 hours ago, GeneSmith said:

Mr. Hetch, so far what I have seen from your posts you try and take advantage of other people's posts. Mine being a prime example, you haven't done it in a few days but I want to point out why you are not doing anything right. Instead of trying to make friends you're making enemies. From what I've gathered you have enemies with Mr. Luprano and his friend Calico. And you're starting to make an enemy out of me. Your taxing is based on capitalism and it's so you can make money. What I believe you're doing is saying you'll give up your business to look good for the public. That's the reason taxes are so high. Let me ask you Mr. Hetch, what do you plan to do with that money. Over an estimated 1.5 million dollars from 200-300 people. 1.5 million dollars from a small island of people for what? You said you don't support free healthcare so that's out the window. Your money won't go to banning weapons because you yourself said you only wanna ban "The powerful ones." So where is that money going to. 

And my sacrifice is giving up my check. Putting money into the government spending. Personally spending my wages so people can get what they NEED. Not what you think they need. Being a governor isn't about money to me. I've proven that. I don't need the Governor check and I'll donate it to spending. My taxes are low and my pay is non existent. While you're taxing is high and your still getting paid. You're a business man as well. And you wanted to go into a very high paying business, tech. Obviously that didn't go as planned but it gave me a pretty good idea of whom I was up against.

Thomas Hetch, I believe you are nothing more than a capitalist who wants nothing more than to bleed everyone dry of their money. You don't support the people but you support highly of taxing the people. You've made that clear. You want to tax them and then make them pay for their healthcare. And on top of that you criticized The People's Party, a party dedicated to for the people. I've been close with them since almost day one. And your first post on there was that they were communists. 

If there is anybody reading this I want you to know what I think and who I represent.

I think Thomas Hetch will ruin the Island, and I think he wants to take your money from you. I want to represent all of you with every fiber of my being. I will treat you with respect and I will try my hardest to make things perfect. And even if I'm not elected I will still have the satisfaction of knowing I had supporters who believed in me and trusted me. Thank you for your time.

People who make businesses and do good to the island deserve to be powerful. Public Services should be limited to encourage people to work.

[Qlight123 52]

Vote For Thomas Hetch For Governer

 

 

[GeneSmith 197]

39 minutes ago, Qlight123 said:

Vote For Thomas Hetch For Governer

 

 

You need to stop promoting him in other threads. It just shows how immature you are and how immature he is. This isn't his party clearly after bashing its policies. So stop it

[GeneSmith 197]

46 minutes ago, Qlight123 said:

Vote For Thomas Hetch For Governer

 

 

Another thing I'd like to say about this. Ever since you've gotten on the campaign trail Mr. Hetch you've been immature and have seen multiple people flaunt your name around threads that you don't belong in. You need to control the people who support you because in my view they act more like a cult willing to spread your name to any and all who wish to be graced by your light. Your policies are unbalanced and your knowledge for some things are limited. I seen your peace post but after this is where I refuse to remain silent.