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  1. Posted

    44 minutes ago, Masa said:

    U assumed it gonna be "finished" after release? I just explained in previous post that excuses they making have absolutely no sense, bug free alpha? First impression? They already made few "first impressions" with delayed release, clunky "gameplay" video, vogue task tracker, and in the end they show real TS that seems to be very small and empty, very few features they never show because of "streamer mode", "that doesn't work yet", "that shop is in works", "animations are still not final", etc. Let's be real here, can it be worse? And I'm not pushing on release, because I know there will be nothing to do, nothing that can bring my attention for more than 2h, no real gameplay, until they expect me to watch movies in game, or twitch streams, which is laughable because I can do it without that game so i dont care anymore when it will be available, im just amazed with lvl of delusion from some peoples right here, believe any word from peoples that lied them in face multiple times before

     

    Completely agree. Although I think any sane person who is not deluded by their faith in the devs know that even when released there is nothing to do. Let's put the deludeds to one side as there isn't really a place for them in reality.

    Im surprised but reassured that this original post has had so much chat, either side of the argument. It does show there is a desire for some actual honesty about where the game is in terms of progression and any Dev reading this must either know it's so far away it isn't worth mentioning, or is wondering why on earth they arnt telling anyone an eta of the release? Can you not even give a month?

    If not, that is seriously worrying. It does make me wonder if anyone actually knows what if going on, what the time frame is or how many more tasks need to be complete.

    And as the quoted post mentions... This is an alpha!!! Deliver an alpha! Not a single person on these forums will be expecting the finished product when you release ts. No one!! Would anyone care if there were bugs in it? Not really, but the longer you drag it out, the more player would care. 

     

     

  2. Posted

    11 hours ago, Mr_Miaow said:

    So, I was browsing the website and found that the most packages are on sale now.

    I have a "UP-SIZED" package and I want to upgrade to "SPEED DEMON".

    is there any way I can pay for the price difference and get an upgrade to a more expansive package?

     

    or I have to refund it first and then buy the new package instead?

     

    I would get a psyc evaluation from a doctor before going ahead with this upgrade...

    no one in their right mind would put more money into this game, especially where cars are concerned. There is a very high chance cars may never be released if the game does not pick up. 

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  4. Posted

    1 hour ago, Anonymous_Citizen said:

    I believe the best part of your post is the part I quoted. I agree, an ETA is necessary and they need to stick by it regardless of bugs. No game, in the history of gaming, has ever been released 100% bug-free. I hope they complete it soon, the main thing I'm afraid of is if they take too long someone is going to copy their idea and release a game before them. If that happens, everybody will jump ship off Identity and go to the completed one. We live in a world of entropy, focusing on near-perfection on the first release is naive, especially in a world where we have limited lifespans.

     

    It's already happened. A game called something along the line of 24/7 (can't remember the exact name) looks brilliant. Exact same concept, a bit more cartoony looking but from what I can see they are further along development than asylum and this other company has only been going for 3 months. Seems a bit too good to be true, so taken with a pinch of salt but they have picked up on asylums weakness and use it in their promo videos

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  5. Posted

    1 minute ago, dagtag said:

    they are unsure, I think I already said that, either way, you saw what happened to their previous ETA's, missing them certainly had an impact on the team, there you go, another reason. all I was saying with that previous message was don't call them on bullshit just because you don't get the information you want.

     

    Btw sorry for the multiple responses, trying to edit on a phone is going crazy!

    its a shame that a team who by the looks of things are very able, very talented and have a great game concept are in my opinion cannot schedule and now if you are correct are afraid to schedule for the fear of failing. What does that say about the game's future? 

    Remember, despite me being here having a winge about my thoughts that they should be honest about the games actual progression towards release, I am here for the same reason as you - I love the idea of the game, I have pledged towards the game and want it to succeed. In my opinion, if they were to be very open about an ETA no matter when it was it would put me and I think many others at ease and give us all a bit of confidence. 

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  6. Posted

    12 minutes ago, dagtag said:

    I seriously don't understand what it is you want with this "honest update", they have told us what the tasks were an what the bugs in those tasks were. what else do you want them to share? what bug they fixed and how many bugs that fix caused? also a "minor delay" isn't bullshit, they underestimated what they still had to do.

    bottom line they didn't "bullshit us" and are transparent enough as it is. they cant interact with their community 24/7 and they cant just say anything you want them to say, you know where they stand and you know what they are working on, in my book that's enough for the community to know. you guys seem to expect way to much from their updates.

     

    When November rolls around and you have had 2-3 more "we're almost there" messages you may start to see the bigger picture. 

    You say they tell us what they are working on yet no one seems able to give an ETA... In my book that's odd... It's either so far away they are scared to announce it for fear of uproar or they literally don't have a clue, I'm unsure which is worse...

    please let me know if there is another reason?

    Also underestimated... A few weeks is an underestimation... We are 4 months past their original release... That is a catastrophic under estimation! 

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  7. Posted

    3 minutes ago, GrumpyReg6657 said:

    YAWN.  Have some faith in the game. It will be ready soon.  If you don't have faith in the game/Devs. Go and play something else.

     

    You don't think I have a point? You have been getting excited to get into this game in October last year mate judging from your posts? Are you telling me you wouldn't like to have an honest update?

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  8. Posted 

    
 

    I think its approaching truth time Asylum,

     

     

    April 20th 2018 - No release but only a 'Quite Minor' and 'short lived' delay.

    - Fair enough, more bugs can be found when fixing/diagnosing initial bugs etc. But with the amount of fixes that was needed before TS module was released, there is no way this could have ever been viewed as a 'short lived' process... A flipping tracker was made to keep track of the list! Not to mention breaking this to the eagerly awaiting community just 4 days shy of the release. You must have know over a month before that this was not going to make that deadline. 

     

    June 6th 2018 - No release, but we are 'approaching release of the town square'

    - Most people have realised the initial bugs diagnosed on April 20th were bigger than the devs initially thought, but hey! It's almost here! Thats great!

     

    July 10th 2018 - No release, but gameplay is 'nearing release'! 

    - Really? Havn't we heard that one before?

     

    August 30th 2018 - No release, but 'We're moving forward quite quickly right now'. 

    - Of course... 

     

    The main point I am coming to here is that we have been bullshitted for long enough. It's time to shit or get off the pot. Asylum, please be realistic with your community, everyone is completely fed up of hearing 'its almost here!' to the point that these words are entirely meaningless! Every time that phrase or similar is dropped, it is becoming less and less believable. 

     

    If its going to take another 3 months, just tell us! Be honest! It won't be as bad as you think! 

     

    If you are confident it is nearing release... think of your date, add 2 weeks to it, 3 to be safer, then announce it! If it arrives early, great!

     

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  9. Posted

    Yeah... that is probably his house... a small company wouldn't always have a proper office. If i were you I would take that link down to be honest... 

    I was expecting from your description that it was literally just uninhabited fields...

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  10. Posted

    16 minutes ago, Plumis said:

     

    - One last thing, which for me is very very suspicious. Why is your company registered office address in the middle of a field in nowhere? 

     

     

    This is amazing, please link us up!!!

  11. Posted

    Just now, dagtag said:

    its how they planned it tho, and I kinda like the concept. like this you can play the game using your own rules, it gives the player a choice. if you go ahead and make the game bound to certain rules you take away the players ability to choose, if that makes sense

     

    This is currently my favourite comment I have read on this forum... Bravo!

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  12. Posted

    Just now, dagtag said:

    this:

    You might have meant it as your thoughts on it, but if you did I would suggest changing the sentence because when formulated like this it looks like a fact

     

    I guess that could be taken as me stating a fact, it is my opinion.

    I tell you what, wait until they release the TS module, then u can call my bullshit. I would genuinely be happy to be called out upon it because we all win in that instance. I just can't see anything else happening.

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  13. Posted

    Just now, dagtag said:

    how bout a fancy game of chess? ^^

     

    We could play chess... but unfortunately the game hasn't catered for the taking of an opponents pieces and it dosnt know the rules... We could move the pieces around randomly and make out to everyone watching that it works perfectly though? :P

  14. Posted

    4 minutes ago, dagtag said:

    doesn't seem like it looking at your accusations... seems to me like you are angry at the development and want people to ask for refunds, I don't see any other reason why you would spread false information.

     

    I am pissed off, mostly with myself for fooling for all of this! One can dream though! 

    What is this false information of which you speak?

  15. Posted

    Just now, dagtag said:

    no they are not, when you pre-order something you are sure to get the game on a certain date because it is finished/close to finished. pledging however is something you do because you support the development, pledging can be done without receiving anything really. so no, pledging and pre-ordering are completely different

     

    Fair point, well I guess its just as well - we certainly wont be getting what we had hoped! :D I'll have a karaoke sing off with you to decide this discussion because that will be the only way we can battle when they release Town Square next summer :P 

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  16. Posted · Edited by wiebley

    Just now, dagtag said:

    you cant just speculate something and pass it as truth. they are taking out the last minor bugs, a bug no matter how small can be gamebreaking. read up on game development before making false accusations...

     

    Having worked in game development for a number of years and still in Software Dev and QA... I believe I have a fairly good understanding of this process ;)

  17. Posted

    22 minutes ago, Rainwalker said:

    Well, it is almost September and still, nothing, a few updated Screenshots of Furniture, The Dev gets on once every few weeks and spews how everything is business as usual in Identity land, BLA, BLA, BLA. 

    Look how long it's been since the first bait and switch of Launching time square.  I gave up on this game, the Minute I  found out the Launch date was false. Then the Tracker,  Somehow words on a screen about Gangs, turf, Cartels, is supposed to keep players from moving on, if there is no Action, people won't fall for this Pipedream to much longer.   I know everyone has Family life, I know the Devs are Human but don't just put words out there that are meanless, get to Action, so it's more than text on a screen.   Before, anyone states, "you're still here", Yeah I am, I refunded, lost cause, I just find amusement in reading these Threads of a Game that will not have a following once after the many years it takes to become a reality if it ever does.

    Dead in the water before it ever began. 0 HOPE 

     

     

    It does not have a hope to be honest. I do believe they will release Town Square, no doubt. Why havnt they released it yet? Because once they do, everyone will see what 3 years of dev has done and get a serious reality check. I havnt refunded - mostly because I really cant be bothered, but also because $30 is well worth going into the TS module and watching everyone rant in game about how there is nothing to do. The actual reality check will be pure entertainment!

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  18. Posted · Edited by wiebley

    7 minutes ago, dagtag said:

    it does, it has a completely different meaning. pre-ordering and pledging are two different things

     

    Whilst this is true, it does not change the fact you are pledging FOR something... whether its a pre-order or not, you have pledged real money with promise of something at the end - so essentially both are the same thing. Shagwrath not only has a peng name, he also makes a good point and those who are still living in the dreamworld have far too much trust in these devs… 

    Other companies have now recognised that this is a great idea for a game and are already further through with development after a few months of work. I admire the effort Asylum have put in, but in terms of product, it is non existant. The best we can say at this stage is thanks for sharing your idea - someone else with more ability will make it happen if you cant - and right now, that is what's happening :D

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  19. Posted · Edited by wiebley

    11 minutes ago, lamona said:

    A few things have corroded the tracker into total meaninglessness. The"last updated" is updated by a few lines of code (look in the .js), and they've admitted they're not adding new things like "show-stopping" bugs. 

    If an infinite amount of tasks, eternally evergrowing, can be lumped under the single UI task, then we have another 89%; a "no, really, it's almost done" when it probably isn't. 

     

    Agree completely - I am glad someone else has understood how they are treating this bloody tracker... it is purely used as a tool to keep the community quiet and give themselves an infinite deadline that they can complete when they like, or let it run indefinitely. Essentially just a way to avoid giving a deadline...

    I mean come on... wasnt this module supposed to be released April 24th or something? The fact that they let it get to 2 days prior to the release date before announcing that it was delayed.... I'd forgive them if it was a week extension or something... but here we are 4 months later... thats a third of a year! They must have full well know it wasnt going to deliver weeks if not months before that deadline, yet they said nothing... 

    absolute bunch of jokers... Just be honest with people and it might not be so bad - hiding behind a tracker and not committing to anything it just making them look incompetent and verging on a bunch of scam artists.

    and if I see another f**king cupboard...

  20. Posted

    It looks a hell of a lot more organised than Identity I have to say - They are already more transparent with development. Definitely one to keep an eye on! I find is kinda hard to believe they have done all this in 2 months though to be honest... I hope its true - They have obviously seen Identity, recognised that it is a great idea, saw that they were making a complete mess of implementation and have somehow pulled level with them in terms of development in 2 months... 

    Only something good can come from this - Identity gets a boost because its being overtaken by a smaller dev in a fraction of the timeframe, or this new game takes the lead and we all get the game we have been hoping for!

    their trailer audio at 2:40 definitely rings a bell for some reason... 

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  21. Posted

    21 hours ago, Sorvete said:

    Are you trying to look smart?

    Hey, let's make a deal... if you are right, we all admit you are really smart and everything. If you are wrong, and the game really comes out, you promise you will never play the game, just watch other people playing.

     

    The latest update just confirmed I was right - And the good thing is, they have found a positive solution - Releasing bi-weekly updates will keep the community engaged rather than waiting the year or so for the second module.

    I think they have done the right thing which is great! I want the game to be a success, I just couldnt see how it was going to happen with such a large timeframe between modules which would have lost the community momentum - hopefully this will solve that problem

    (this is as long as I have not misunderstood the dev post) 

  22. Posted

    6 hours ago, Cstove said:

    John posted a new insider today about gangs, and the dev blog is coming out tomorrow!

     

    So we get some more fairytales about all the fantastic content they are going to put into future module we will most likely never see... They can't get through module 1 without causing a train wreck and pissing the community off - All these new ideas about what is going to be included in the final game is all just fantasy. 

    Unfortunately, this game will sink itself when module 1 is released as 90% of backers out there will be disappointed with what is released. I am guessing they are still getting a few more subscriptions here and there with every day that the module isnt out... They know the moment the module 1 is released, their funding will stop because youtube will be full of people playing module 1,  then running out of content to show as no one wants to watch a chess game on repeat - therefore no more investors. By the time the next module is out (say another year to be generous to the speed of development) this game will be long forgotten.

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  23. Posted

    so all furnishings and customisation inside the apartments is free? Is that only until the full game is released right? Otherwise, what's the point in earning money? Surely a large draw to earning money is to deck out your pad etc? I guess there are clothes and cars, but I would have thought earning your way to a pimp house would be one of the draws for many?

  24. Posted

    6 minutes ago, dagtag said:

    module 1 is a social module, there will be no economy, you cant earn/spend money yet...

    what about on your apartment? I havnt even got an apartment so this really dosnt bother me, but whats the point in people buying these apartments when you cant do anything with them? Let's face it, this game won't get past module 1 due to funding so buying these apartments is entirely pointless?

  25. Posted

    8 hours ago, Marius_Rosetta said:

    Somewhere in this forum, someone mentioned that with every test, there may be a bug, and with every fix on that bug, another bug may appear. When you consider the idea of the game, the coding that had to be done from scratch, and the previous sentence, you have to be considerate to the game's development.

    That is correct.

    My problem is that they should not have put a tracker up at all - it is inaccurate and does not portray what is actually going on. Had they not put it up to try and appease the community, there would not be so much negativity surrounding this game.

    They have put it up to give themselves an infinite deadline - it wont be released until all the tasks are complete... So they are there sitting there, no pressure to deliver because the tracker isn't complete... what a nice gig!  

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