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11 hours ago, dragon_12dk said:

Liberal/Libertarian? How could you be both? They are not even remotely similar.

Classical liberal.
Classical liberals: founding fathers, Voltaire, Rousseau, Locke, and other thinkers of the enlightenment.
Neoliberals: Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher.
Classical and neoliberals are not modern liberals.  Libertarians were originally called liberals; but, since the collectivists stole the label of liberal, somehow (neither side knows, it's a phenomenon), we are often called libertarian, which is a term coined by Karl Marx to define individualist thinkers who believe in liberty.
So, by its original meaning, I am a liberal, and to be precise, a classical liberal.  Hence, my signature is the rallying cry of the classical liberals/libertarians, "Laissez-nous faire, laissez-nous passer.  Le monde va de lui-même."

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well Liberal only means "open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values."

Libertarian has actually ideological meaning behind it, for instance, this political party would be liberal in Australia, and Conservative in the USA.

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13 minutes ago, dragon_12dk said:

would you like an application for that role?

 

Yea I'd love an application, thanks.

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you can message me the answers or you can post them, here. either works

 

1.) Character name

2.) Username

3.) What interests you in the CCP and this specific position?

4.) will you most likely be on US servers or EU servers?

5.) Describe your political ideology (for example mine is fusionism, a blend between conservatism and libertarianism)

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6 hours ago, dragon_12dk said:

well Liberal only means "open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values."

Libertarian has actually ideological meaning behind it, for instance, this political party would be liberal in Australia, and Conservative in the USA.

That would be because of definition change.
Originally, a liberal was an advocate for liberty, and the term libertarian didn't exist at the time, since libertarian is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx.  You'll often hear libertarians refer to themselves as liberals, and they mean classical liberals.  

Something else to note is that libertarians are very philosophical, and we go by the philosophical political spectrum.  The left represents a scale of collectivism while the right represents a scale of individualism.  On the farthest end of the left, there is communism.  On the farthest end on the right, there is anarchy (or what anarchists would call anarcho-capitalism).  

As for being called conservative in the USA, they often get lumped with the paleo-conservatives, which there is a lot of similarity.

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There's a good book I read some time ago called "The Libertarian Mind" by David Boaz.  It's basically an update of his previous book.  I recommend it for better understanding classical liberalism/libertarianism since it's a manifesto.

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9 minutes ago, Jared said:

That would be because of definition change.
Originally, a liberal was an advocate for liberty, and the term libertarian didn't exist at the time, since libertarian is a term that was originally coined by Karl Marx.  You'll often hear libertarians refer to themselves as liberals, and they mean classical liberals.  

Something else to note is that libertarians are very philosophical, and we go by the philosophical political spectrum.  The left represents a scale of collectivism while the right represents a scale of individualism.  On the farthest end of the left, there is communism.  On the farthest end on the right, there is anarchy (or what anarchists would call anarcho-capitalism).  

As for being called conservative in the USA, they often get lumped with the paleo-conservatives, which there is a lot of similarity.

I know this not an argument but, yall bunch of statist to me. Libertarians are Anarcho-Capitalists who don't have the balls to let go of the state. Anarcho-Capitalism, not libertarianism will be our credo!:D

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10 minutes ago, Capitalist said:

I know this not an argument but, yall bunch of statist to me. Libertarians are Anarcho-Capitalists who don't have the balls to let go of the state. Anarcho-Capitalism, not libertarianism will be our credo!:D

Haha!  I interact with many anarcho-capitalists, and have an anarcho-capitalist friend, and they all say the same thing.  I don't mind it, always gives me a good chuckle since I see it as a good issue (on my part).
The biggest differences root from our core philosophies.  
I will say, many of stances are very close to those of the anarcho-capitalists (heck, on those political compass quizzes, I always end up on the bottom right corner, right up against the right edge and close to the bottom) and so, there are many issues that I could easily press with the anarcho-capitalists.  But hey, at least we (libertarians) are minarchists, and not one of those NSDAP wackos (one of my friends loves the NSDAP, and calls himself a national-socialist, we debate almost every day).  

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28 minutes ago, Jared said:

Haha!  I interact with many anarcho-capitalists, and have an anarcho-capitalist friend, and they all say the same thing.  I don't mind it, always gives me a good chuckle since I see it as a good issue (on my part).
The biggest differences root from our core philosophies.  
I will say, many of stances are very close to those of the anarcho-capitalists (heck, on those political compass quizzes, I always end up on the bottom right corner, right up against the right edge and close to the bottom) and so, there are many issues that I could easily press with the anarcho-capitalists.  But hey, at least we (libertarians) are minarchists, and not one of those NSDAP wackos (one of my friends loves the NSDAP, and calls himself a national-socialist, we debate almost every day).  

True, I can tolerate minarchists every now and then. But to be tolerant to somebody that is intolerant is self-detonating. National-Socialists and Communists are the worst statist scum out there,.

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1.) Character name

Charles Finley AKA Chucky

2.) Username

jmna9798

3.) What interests you in the CCP and this specific position?

I want to spread and plan the platform of the CCP to fit the needs of Identity players.

4.) will you most likely be on US servers or EU servers?

US

5.) Describe your political ideology (for example mine is fusionism, a blend between conservatism and libertarianism)

Constitutionalism, following the law of the land, giving states rights and small government. 

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3 hours ago, jman9798 said:

1.) Character name

Charles Finley AKA Chucky

2.) Username

jmna9798

3.) What interests you in the CCP and this specific position?

I want to spread and plan the platform of the CCP to fit the needs of Identity players.

4.) will you most likely be on US servers or EU servers?

US

5.) Describe your political ideology (for example mine is fusionism, a blend between conservatism and libertarianism)

Constitutionalism, following the law of the land, giving states rights and small government. 

Accepted, Updating the website now!

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2 hours ago, dragon_12dk said:

Accepted, Updating the website now!

 

Thanks man appreciate it 

 

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Added a forums to the website! If you are a member, or if you intend to run with the CCP's support, please join! thanks!

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On 5/2/2016 at 11:19 PM, dragon_12dk said:

The reason a candidate would want to join the CCP is clear. Providing that you agree with the majority of our platform, you have a direct way to almost automatically get recognition by our members. If endorsed for office by the CCP, you automatically receive an advantage against others on the ballot, how? Because members of the CCP will likely vote for you, since you share the common goals of this political party.

isn't that exactly what political parties are about, i fail to see how this makes you different

 

(btw that website was the most beautiful thing i've ever seen. did you make it yourself or with something like square space?)

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1 hour ago, K9_GAMING said:

isn't that exactly what political parties are about, i fail to see how this makes you different

 

(btw that website was the most beautiful thing i've ever seen. did you make it yourself or with something like square space?)

We were the only political party when I wrote that.

and nah, I used Wix this time :P

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4 minutes ago, dragon_12dk said:

We were the only political party when I wrote that.

and nah, I used Wix this time :P

ok nice! website looks awesome and your goals arent too bad and seem to be quite positive (unlike the anarcho-capitalist movement). it is a shame to be a different party but you seem like a nice person to lose to. :D

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On 6/12/2016 at 2:37 AM, dragon_12dk said:

Greetings all!

I spent the afternoon completely redoing the website from scratch, here it is.

http://www.conservativecoalitionparty.com/

 

Greetings all,

What a splendid job you did on the website Chris! It's sure to attract potential voters, politicians, and supporters. I'm glad to be back, and stand for govenor ofc. As you know, whilst keeping our party in check, we're the most prepared of any parties as of now. That's wonderful, we shall be planning our campaigns, and have them ready. I suggest we don't have another co-chairman, but secretary instead. 

 

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5 minutes ago, TheHonourableJames said:

Greetings all,

What a splendid job you did on the website Chris! It's sure to attract potential voters, politicians, and supporters. I'm glad to be back, and stand for govenor ofc. As you know, whilst keeping our party in check, we're the most prepared of any parties as of now. That's wonderful, we shall be planning our campaigns, and have them ready. I suggest we don't have another co-chairman, but secretary instead. 

 

The other co-chairman spot is there for the other community we are on, you are the only co-chair on identity. Hope that makes sense.

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Hello! I have to say I am impressed by the dedication and professionalism of your party's website. It is really nice. I also like your party's platform. It will be really interesting to see how In Game politics will be implemented and play out overall.

Family First, Mission Always. Stay Safe.

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