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I am requesting a full refund on my account.  The rules are changing before you even get this up and running.  Thank you

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It's not gonna happen for a long time or it won't even happen. Good luck lmao

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1 hour ago, PermanentPMS said:

I am requesting a full refund on my account.  The rules are changing before you even get this up and running.  Thank you

I don't understand how the rules are changing? The rule of refunding has always actually been this: 

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MAKE A PLEDGE TO IDENTITY

We, the Identity development team, would like to thank you for making a contribution to the Identity project and its development. As our thanks for your pledge, you will receive all awards listed in the package below.

Because all funds are allocated to Identity's development, all pledges are considered final.

Yeah, they will stop refunds likely once after the 1st module releases but it is a donation you have made and so they are actually being nice by giving refunds in the first place, in which they don't have to.

Please email: [email protected] for a refund!

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not the rules of refunding, the rules of being able to create and develop clothing, motorcycles, etc....  Now that is no longer allowed, I am asking nicely if I can please have the refund.  Thank you I have sent an email explaining my position better Thank You

 

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4 hours ago, PermanentPMS said:

not the rules of refunding, the rules of being able to create and develop clothing, motorcycles, etc....  Now that is no longer allowed, I am asking nicely if I can please have the refund.  Thank you I have sent an email explaining my position better Thank You

 

Hey PermanentPMS,

I'm not sure where you've heard this but nothing has changed as far as crafting clothing and customizing vehicles. Perhaps you're confusing responses to questions about adding/modding in your own clothing models into the game, which won't be possible unless we add modding to Identity someday (no promises). Players who are crafting and customizing items will craft from a list of existing 3d clothing assets that are added into the game by our developers, and players will then be able to customize that asset however they please, choosing primary/secondary colors, adding and changing patterns and materials, and even displaying their clothing brand on the item.

In fact, we're potentially even expanding on this feature by possibly allowing players to upload images to our game server to display on custom crafted clothing.

I hope this eases your concerns, and sorry for the confusion.

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14 hours ago, Motown said:

Hey PermanentPMS,

I'm not sure where you've heard this but nothing has changed as far as crafting clothing and customizing vehicles. Perhaps you're confusing responses to questions about adding/modding in your own clothing models into the game, which won't be possible unless we add modding to Identity someday (no promises). Players who are crafting and customizing items will craft from a list of existing 3d clothing assets that are added into the game by our developers, and players will then be able to customize that asset however they please, choosing primary/secondary colors, adding and changing patterns and materials, and even displaying their clothing brand on the item.

In fact, we're potentially even expanding on this feature by possibly allowing players to upload images to our game server to display on custom crafted clothing.

I hope this eases your concerns, and sorry for the confusion.

If you do end up expanding on the feature to allow players to upload images to the game server to display on custom crafted clothing, alot of people would be so flippin happy, hopefully its possible though
Now because i messaged you regarding this awhile ago and you said its not possible because of (and i quote you here);
1) Many .jpg or .png images at once take up a great deal of space in our storage system which has the potential to become very costly in server rental fees.
2) I can almost be certain that if we were to store images in any other format, we'd be forced to compress the image quality so much, the quality of the image would degrade to the point that small text may not be readable, and fine details may be unrecognizable.


I am assuming you may know some work arounds to fix these issues? Are you also able to maybe somehow monitor the pictures being uploaded making sure theres no offensive/pornographic content for kids to witness?

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3 hours ago, Narc said:

If you do end up expanding on the feature to allow players to upload images to the game server to display on custom crafted clothing, alot of people would be so flippin happy, hopefully its possible though
Now because i messaged you regarding this awhile ago and you said its not possible because of (and i quote you here);
1) Many .jpg or .png images at once take up a great deal of space in our storage system which has the potential to become very costly in server rental fees.
2) I can almost be certain that if we were to store images in any other format, we'd be forced to compress the image quality so much, the quality of the image would degrade to the point that small text may not be readable, and fine details may be unrecognizable.


I am assuming you may know some work arounds to fix these issues? Are you also able to maybe somehow monitor the pictures being uploaded making sure theres no offensive/pornographic content for kids to witness?

That's really stretching it.

"In fact, we're potentially even expanding on this feature by possibly allowing players to upload images to our game server to display on custom crafted clothing."

This whole sentence is made of hypothesises! And also, if some people want to make their own clothes so badly, there could be a subscription for it.

About pornography and everything, the game will be rated 18+, so this wouldn't be different from a kid picking up hookers in GTA V.

 

As to the workaround, just read his message again, he said that maybe they could eventually think about the possibility of having this feature. Don't make up promises he never made.

 

EDIT: "unless we add modding to Identity one day (no promises)". Please read and understand everything before saying things.

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5 hours ago, Rinyuaru-Kun said:

About pornography and everything, the game will be rated 18+

The game is 18+ and so why bring up this point may I ask out of curiosity? 

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13 minutes ago, LuckyDuck said:

The game is 18+ and so why bring up this point may I ask out of curiosity? 

Because Narc was concerned about inappropriate content having to be monitored for SFW reasons... Was I wrong to point out that there technically shouldn't be any children playing this game, and that even if there were, they'd have been warned about the game being intended for adults to play?

8 hours ago, Narc said:

Are you also able to maybe somehow monitor the pictures being uploaded making sure theres no offensive/pornographic content for kids to witness?

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Even tho its 18+ im sure for immersion sake (what asylum are really pushing for), alot of people would rather not walk around the streets and see people running around with pictures from google of dicks or people having sex on their shirts, and i know that would happen. If your excuse to allow it is because its 18+ then why not allow nudity, sex and other features? They have stated the reason why they arent allowing nudity is for streaming/video advertisement when people play it wont be allowed on twitch or something (even tho conan exiles and rust you can blur out the nudity and still stream it) having pictures of pornographic and racist/offensive material is definatley gonna get you banned from streaming
(also what i meant by offensive material as in racist and homophobic content)

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43 minutes ago, Narc said:

Even tho its 18+ im sure for immersion sake (what asylum are really pushing for), alot of people would rather not walk around the streets and see people running around with pictures from google of dicks or people having sex on their shirts, and i know that would happen. If your excuse to allow it is because its 18+ then why not allow nudity, sex and other features? They have stated the reason why they arent allowing nudity is for streaming/video advertisement when people play it wont be allowed on twitch or something (even tho conan exiles and rust you can blur out the nudity and still stream it) having pictures of pornographic and racist/offensive material is definatley gonna get you banned from streaming
(also what i meant by offensive material as in racist and homophobic content)

I didn't mean they should completely accept everything, but of course and like on every video game, the community would do the "inappropriate" moderation, via reports or such.

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1 hour ago, Rinyuaru-Kun said:

I didn't mean they should completely accept everything, but of course and like on every video game, the community would do the "inappropriate" moderation, via reports or such.

didnt say you did, i was answering lucky duck because she asked why i said it. Community moderation via reports isnt the best way to go about it.

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21 minutes ago, Narc said:

didnt say you did, i was answering lucky duck because she asked why i said it. Community moderation via reports isnt the best way to go about it.

Well, on every website you can use an avatar, who is moderating it? The moderation team is, of course, hunting for this kind of stuff, but the community can also report those to the moderators themselves. That's what I meant, certainly not a democracy for the suitable or not content.

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On 9/23/2017 at 2:58 PM, Rinyuaru-Kun said:

Or you could have asked for it in an email, or via paypal / kickstarter. You're a genius.

Or you could have kept your opinion to yourself.

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2 hours ago, PermanentPMS said:

Or you could have kept your opinion to yourself.

Come on, that's like writing on a school wall that you want better grades...

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On 9/23/2017 at 3:08 PM, PermanentPMS said:

I am requesting a full refund on my account.  The rules are changing before you even get this up and running.  Thank you

Customization will definitely be apart of Identity and will be a really awesome game mechanic already displayed in Identity's apartment video and various other showcases. I started following this game when it went up on Kickstarter and haven't been worried one bit about the things they will or will not add, and shouldn't be a determining factor to refund your account if you think they won't do something without proof.

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4 hours ago, DrivenMuffin said:

Customization will definitely be apart of Identity and will be a really awesome game mechanic already displayed in Identity's apartment video and various other showcases. I started following this game when it went up on Kickstarter and haven't been worried one bit about the things they will or will not add, and shouldn't be a determining factor to refund your account if you think they won't do something without proof.

Same here, except the fact that I've only pledged and registered recently, after silently observing since April 2016

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I think even the thought of getting a refund on a "pledge" or donation as it is, is ridiculous peoples expectations these days are fucking insane.

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16 hours ago, YouKnowBro said:

I think even the thought of getting a refund on a "pledge" or donation as it is, is ridiculous peoples expectations these days are fucking insane.

Even more so since it is clearly written that "every pledge is considered definitive"...

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4 hours ago, Rinyuaru-Kun said:

Even more so since it is clearly written that "every pledge is considered definitive"...

Exactly! Someone that understands c:

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3 hours ago, YouKnowBro said:

Exactly! Someone that understands c:

Well if people were reading the whole contract before signing it blindly, things would go a lot smoother.

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4 hours ago, Rinyuaru-Kun said:

Well if people were reading the whole contract before signing it blindly, things would go a lot smoother.

Yeah it would also be nice if the devs could stick to a date, I get having set backs and running a little late but the module progression bar for module 1 hasn't moved in three months. So I don't find it at all strange people want their money back for something that keeps getting pushed back by excuse after excuse.

 

That being said I have $90 wrapped up in this "development" and I plan to see it out until the release date, but I am over the top fed-up with the lack of communication and push-back dates.

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17 minutes ago, Triiz said:

That being said I have $90 wrapped up in this "development" and I plan to see it out until the release date, but I am over the top fed-up with the lack of communication and push-back dates.

They give plenty of information, they stream 3 times a week and have been doing dev streams also lately, while answering questions for the gaming hour streams. They also give screenshots, concept art and more nearly every time they stream. They have a few set backs yes and well they have not given a date for the module for a long time and so how are they pushing it back more when they do not give any more dates until they are certain. The devs do have their own lives and well some have been ill lately. It is not entirely there thought if they encounter problems they did not count on/ expect to happen. 

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